Doesn’t it just say it all…
…that Internet Explorer 7 has created problems on some of our older sites, whereas Firefox 2 (available on Mozilla’s FTP server now, ahead of their official launch) makes things (such as Flash movies living alongside Lightbox) work better.
I think Mr Shaun Inman put it well (following a slightly stupid post on the IE blog):
“Are you ready yet?” Are we ready yet? Shouldn’t the browser be ready for the web - not the other way around? Have we really made a career of cleaning up Microsoft’s mess? Sigh.
…Unless you’re a web developer save yourself a restart and just download Firefox or Opera. Seriously.
Seriously, you PC lot should get it, just cos its claws are so deep in Windows you’ll probably improve the performance/stability of your computer, or some sheeit. Just never ever browse the web with it.
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October 24th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
HAHAHAHAHHA
Oh dear the old FireFox proganda.
Grab a PC. Download FF and IE7.
Ok… now, fire them both up…
Up pops IE … and … wait…. wait… here it comes… wait… oh there’s FireFox.
FF also has a MASSIVE memory leak to do with images. Surf enough websites and FF will gorge itself on your RAM. FF is the only browser I’ve seen to alloctate itself over 500mb memory. And that’s before we talk about the other more well known memory leak with Flash.
I did have FF installed, for its cool RSS feed support, but now IE has that built in, I need not have to bother myself with that pile of crap.
As for rendering issues, FF has just as many. The difference is while an incorrect render on IE’s part is down to IE ‘not understanding the web’, with FF, the blame is never placed on FF, oh no, ‘it must be a standards issue, are you using the correct code?’… support sucks. FF also has problems with certain embedded Javascript code.
Don’t get me wrong, IE’s crap too. I’m just tired of FF’s faults being utterly ignored and it being praised for being this wonderful piece of kit. FF suffers from all the inherrant problems of the majority of open source progs, including a lack of testing.
A block pop-up option that .. well.. still allows pop-ups? The memory leaks, the problems with flash, leaving a browser window open for extended periods, javascript, rendering issues… They all are indicative of an inflexible coding approach based on the assumption that because you’d coded it one way, that is how it’ll work for everyone, everytime, without problems.
Programming languages are much like spoken languages in that respect, there are exceptions to the rules and to write robust applications you need to test and identify those exceptions. Should Mozilla ever wake up to that fact, they might develop a product that’s actually useable on a significant percentage of the market. Until then… they’re always going to have the smaller share.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
Well, I suspect the faster launching has to do with IE being already essentially loaded.
I couldn’t give a rat’s ass for propaganda, what I do know is that IE (6, at least) is invariably the exception when it comes to how it renders a page.
If Firefox, Netscape (yes, I know it’s the same engine), Opera, Safari, hell even sometimes mac IE5 all render a page one way, and Win IE6 another, then in that case I’d err on the side of “little piggy odd-one-out is wrong.” I never feel like I’m having to bodge to accommodate Firefox.
I don’t like the RSS support in any of the browsers at the moment - I use NetNewsWire.
In defense of IE7, the Flash embed issues we’ve got on some of our older sites are owing to that foul code that Dreamweaver write, and the footer positioning issues seem to have more to do with some dodgy CSS. By and large, it’s looking pretty good to me.
You must understand, I have to work with graphic designers who Just. Do. Not. Get. that you can’t achieve pixel-indentical rendering between browsers. I spend so much time trying to achieve the impossible…
October 24th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
which is why you get paid in trucks of Caviar.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Not now, maybe if my Plan for World Domination proves itself a good idea, rather than a fool’s errand…